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Jillian Martin & Zoe Daines' Validations with their daughters, Charlie & Leah, through Amy Utsman

Jillian Martin & Zoe Daines' Validations with their daughters, Charlie & Leah, through Amy Utsman

  • Posted
    • Apr
    • 25
    • 2025
by Elizabeth Boisson

clockwise from Left: Charlie / Leah / Amy Utsman / Charlie & Jillian / Little house in Leah's room recently painted yellow/ Leah Blowing Kisses / Leah's Yellow Princess Dress

 

Validation with Amy Utsman

When the reading started there was a little girl about the age of 9 or 10 years old.

She's really a lot of fun and the "clown" in the house, but very intelligent.

Reading was very important to her and she wanted to start reading the bigger chapter books, because she wanted to be older.

She said she needs to call her a younger lady because she acts older than she is.

Amy then said it could be a niece, it doesn't need to be your daughter.

My niece Leah passed away in her sleep and the 4 year mark was on 4/19, she would have been 8 in July. (I said 7 in the reading, which was incorrect)

Amy talked about an accident, to me an unexplained death is an accident. 

My daughter also passed away in her sleep at 5 months old last July, 7/11/24, it was ruled SUIDS.

She said that the older girl has lighter hair (almost white blond) and my other little one has very dark hair, this is exactly true.

She also brought up a mid size dog being with them and Leah's Mom Zoe grew up for many years with her beloved dog Evie.

They came; My niece on the right and daughter on the left.  A woman is with them but they like to do whatever they do. Zoe and I can both relate to this with our girls!

My niece said that I cannot convince the rest of my family to believe that this is real, and by doing that it is making it harder on me, and she said "I got this." She wanted to visit and tell me that today.

When I talked with Leah's Mom she said the "I got this" was totally her daughter and that she definitely wanted to be older than she was and the reading of the bigger books was spot on as well. She was a sassy, smart, & fun little girl who we can totally see doing "whatever she does."

Amy said my daughter says that I did everything right, which really got me, because I blame myself for the loss and have been punishing myself for the last 9 months.

Amy said that she also said that It didn't hurt and that she's good and she loves me. 

She also said that my daughter is a mix of girly and tomboy which I can relate to because we dressed her as both and she didn't know exactly what she wanted to be yet. We also said from the start that we wanted her to be a tom-boy and not a princess and then dressed her girly with bows :) She can do whatever she wants and very persistent. Again, I did everything right and that she wouldn't have been the same.

She was also bubbly and loving, so much in this little package which is totally my daughter. She was young, but such a happy and good baby. She loved everyone and had found her voice and would just yell.  Amy said she was very popular and had many playmates and one included a lost pregnancy (which can only be the embryo that didn't implant before Charlie). Amy said that this little girl said that she was with that embryo and that I shouldn't call it a "fail" that she was with that baby and that it was all about TIMING. My husband  and I have been together for almost 17 years and we finally got Charlie via IVF after a lot of things happening in our lives and relationship. She was MEANT to be our daughter and we always said that. The transfer was at a perfect time as I was on paid furlough from a very stressful job so the pregnancy was able to successfully implant and I was able to get through the first 15 weeks before starting another job.

Amy said: She is very popular for so young. I am taking the time with you because I want you to hear with her that everything was done perfectly and you keep questioning yourself and how could you not? Just listen to what she has to say, she has opinions, and she's very involved. But she's good, she's good. She is with adults in the spirit world. These kids are wonderful. 

Amy brought up the color yellow being important for my daughter but this resonated with my niece. Her daughter practically lived in her yellow princess dress, also yellow paint was brought up and they had just painted a large little house for her bed in Leah's room, yellow.

Blowing kisses was also brought up and my niece said that that was the way her daughter blew kisses all of the time. Amy demonstrated the blowing kisses and said "I love you Mommy." The way she did it was exactly how Leah blew her kisses. 

Amy told me that my daughter said I needed to get sleep, which also resonates with me because my sleep schedule has been terrible since we lost her. That I lay there and try to talk to her and I don't think anything is happening, but what about the dream??

She brought up a dream that I had of her (there have been many visit dreams) and that she was beautiful with a light glowing around her, and it was pretty like her room.

We redid her room completely for her and chose everything perfectly and we loved how it came out and always said her room is so pretty. I would sleep in there with her and tell her that it was her room and so pretty. In fact, to this day I still sleep in her room often. She told Amy I tried to make everything perfect. Leah also had a pretty room that she loved, and Zoe and I have both had dreams that our daughters returned and we didn't know how to explain it to people. 

In the end Amy told me "Everyone should eat some cake, not cupcakes." For Charlie's 1st Birthday we bought an ice cream cake to celebrate her and one of Leah's favorite things to eat  was cookie cake and that is one of the ways that her family celebrates her on her Birthday.

This reading meant everything to me and my niece Zoe, our little girls are terribly missed but it gave us so much comfort to know they are together and happy.

Thank you SO much HPH & Amy.

Jillian Martin & Zoe Daines
~Charlie's Mommy and Leah's Mommy
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